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Suckage by MartiniPhilosopher (2.00 / 0) #6 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:10:35 AM EST

And it probably won't be any better with MSSS' husband not there either.

Do you have any idea how Mrs. Dad came by this hyper-protective attitude?

Whenever I hear one of those aforementioned douche bags pontificate about how dangerous [...] videogames are I get a little stabby. --Wil Wheaton.

I'm not sure. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #7 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:14:09 AM EST

I know she's got some issues about MSSS suffering from deadbeat dad syndrome, but that's really only part of it. Mrs. Dad's friends say it's always been that way, right from birth forward, so it's hard to say why she ended up that way.

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deadbeat dad syndrome? by Merekat (2.00 / 0) #9 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:18:41 AM EST

So when a dad figure actively takes an interest in her life and development, that's a bad thing?

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Something like that. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #10 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:26:15 AM EST

Mrs. Dad's response to anyone questioning why she babies MSSS is that, "she had such a bad childhood because he dad left when she was seven." The theory we're beginning to piece together is that Mrs. Dad has always focused so much attention on MSSS that the dad just felt like he was in the way and eventually shoved off just because he was tired of being told what a worthless bastard he was for trying.

A horrible thing to say at a time like this, but looking more and more likely to be true. Case in point - they'll be holding a private ceremony for the unborn child at the cemetery. Mr. MSSS is not going to be allowed to attend. It's MSSS and Mrs. Dad only.

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Jesus fuck by Merekat (2.00 / 0) #11 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:28:41 AM EST

That's inhuman.

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I may need to take a trip to Iowa soon. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #13 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:31:14 AM EST

Mr. MSSS needs to go out, have about ten thousand beers, and get some shit off his chest or he's going to end up exploding. Dad's to beat down to help in this situation, and Mr. MSSS is a good enough dude I'd like to help him out if I can. And that's really the only thing I see that could possibly help in this situation, aside from telling him to gird up and tell her he's included or it's done. Too many times he gets told to just stay in the background. This is not one of those times where it's OK to just do as he's told.

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: Getting a grip by Herring (2.00 / 0) #19 Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:31:09 AM EST

I don't think I could stay with someone who even thought that it was remotely OK to shut him out of this. Little things like having an affair or appearing in an internet sex video with members of PNAC you might be able to fogive, but not that.

I'm English, and as such I crave disappointment. - Bill Bailey
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It is by Herring (2.00 / 0) #18 Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:27:36 AM EST

And in my book is a totally unforgiveable thing do to. He should pack and go now.

I'm English, and as such I crave disappointment. - Bill Bailey
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Unfortunately. . . by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #22 Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:34:58 AM EST

he's so used to being told what to do, he may not. But, this might be what puts him over the edge.

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Isn't it odd by debacle (2.00 / 0) #36 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:40:36 PM EST

When you're rooting for a siblings SO to realize that they'd be better off outside of the relationship?

"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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She's not my sibling. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #38 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:44:50 PM EST

(M.y S.upposed S.tep S.ister)

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Keep telling yourself that. [nt] by debacle (2.00 / 0) #42 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:48:47 PM EST

"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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Would you claim her? by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #46 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:50:39 PM EST

I rest my case.

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I wouldn' t have a choice by debacle (2.00 / 0) #48 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:51:54 PM EST

Call a thing what it is.

"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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: If that's the case by debacle (2.00 / 0) #53 Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:00:05 PM EST

Why didn't dear old dad go after the young twenty-something rather than the middle-aged mother?
"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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I would call her what she is. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #52 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:59:29 PM EST

But this is a family site.

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Is it? [nt] by debacle (2.00 / 0) #54 Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:02:28 PM EST

"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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: Not really. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #56 Thu May 22, 2008 at 08:00:10 AM EST

But I was tired when I wrote that and couldn't come up with a clever way to say it.

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That should be helpful to Mr MSSS by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #12 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:30:48 AM EST

At the alimony allocation hearing.

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_{(We can strip mine the rest later.)}
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I just hope they at least let him know by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #14 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:32:21 AM EST

where the grave will be, so he can mourn too. It's not right how they pushed him out of this. On any level.

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I just had a horrible thought about this. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #15 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:40:19 AM EST

"He wouldn't even attend the funeral for his own unborn."

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Too many witnesses by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #16 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:56:49 AM EST

That he wasn't allowed to attend.

Earth First!
_{(We can strip mine the rest later.)}
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While this is true. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #17 Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:58:08 AM EST

I wouldn't say it's out of the realm of possibility to be brought up if it comes to that.

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no. by clock (4.00 / 1) #21 Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:34:28 AM EST

he argues that he was excluded and it all comes out as heresay since they won't have a trial anyway. welcome to iowa.

_{Clock is right. [nt] --vorheesleatherface}

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: Yeah, Iowa. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #23 Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:36:43 AM EST

He'll owe for the rest of his life no matter what happens because there's also a living child involved.

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wow. by gzt (2.00 / 0) #25 Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:44:12 AM EST

I understand that some people are messed up, but it's like, man, that is messed up. I don't know where they are in the Great State of Iowa, but where I was raised in the Great State of Iowa, that would not fly for one moment. You just can't do that.

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: MSSS was raised in California. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #26 Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:06:09 PM EST

Perhaps you missed the entry where she had a dream that she would die in childbirth, and she made Mr. MSSS and Mrs. Dad promise to raise her children in California, because that was such a wonderful place to have such a happy childhood.

Even though the reason Mrs. Dad spoils MSSS is that her childhood was horrible because her dad was a deadbeat.

And there could be no other place to have a happy childhood.

I'm quickly remembering why I found it so difficult to dredge up sympathy for MSSS when first hearing this news.

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WHAT?!? by debacle (2.00 / 0) #35 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:39:31 PM EST

Dear lord, that poor husband.

I mean really. I would hang myself. How can they do that to him?

"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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There can be no acknowledgement. . . by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #39 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:45:46 PM EST

that others have thoughts, nor feelings. It's one of their primary operational rules in all things.

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Sounds like something out of a by debacle (2.00 / 0) #44 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:49:55 PM EST

psycho thriller movie.

"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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Nothing that frightening. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #47 Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:51:54 PM EST

More like old-school fiefdom type stuff. The peons can be viewed as cattle and dogs. Namely, anyone that's not them or their direct female descendants.

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This is messed up. by gzt (2.00 / 0) #20 Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:34:04 AM EST

Mrs. Dad must have had a messed up childhood herself.

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: I would guess so. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #24 Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:37:42 AM EST

No one, her friends, her mother, her husband, nor anyone else involved is able to convince her what she's doing is unhealthy for both her and MSSS. It's a strange situation made stranger by bad things like what's currently going on.

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